Outsider

most of its being done in the background

And that's exactly the problem :roll:

Duion I complain whatever way you want me to complain baby <3

It's been a wile since I checked Torque forums, mostly I come here to see Duion's rants, they are pretty funny, never change buddy.

While reading this tread I was thinking the whole time about the saying "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" That's pretty much Torque3D development in a nutshell.

As an outsider, this is usually the Torque experience when finding this:

• Searchs "open source game engine" on google: If algorithm gods feel generous that day this forum pops up in page 15 more or less or in a "game engines list article", -not a great start-.

• Checks 'Get involved' and goes to the git linked there, -oh, OK last update 8 months ago, last answered Issue on November 2019, not a great sign-.

• Last official release more than 2 years ago, -yeah this is fucking dead-

• Goes to features list and... -Desktop only and not even PBR materials- (If isn't in a official release it doesn't exist, not gonna bother searching JeffR's work, etc)

• Twitter -> Dead

• Facebook -> Dead

• YouTube -> Non-existent

• No updates -> PAGE <- or similar (News forum section is OK but again, too hidden)

• Sees Discord, -Yeah, not even gonna bother-

Conclusion: Downloads Godot.